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1 Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Tue May 13, 2008 7:15 pm

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Nationalization of schools and colleges, what do you think? Do you favour the idea or oppose it? Why?



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2 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Tue May 27, 2008 1:10 am

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This should not be happening actually. The only thing that should happen is.... creation of slabs of Tuition fees based on the type of school. That means, Free of cost of state-owned schools. a small fee for small schools, higher for schools with bigger investments.... but all the same cheaper than the present tuition rate.

Nationalizing of schools is just not practical.

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3 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:27 pm

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It is practical but there is no good policies to back them up.

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4 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Thu May 14, 2009 6:33 pm

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look at other national school. Are they doing good? Even I am not a rich guy, I spend so much money in private schools. Its because of quality of education that I get there. Ask the parents of student, in which school they want there children to enrolled in, the answer will be "boarding school". So, imagine if there is no private school.

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5 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:25 pm

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I believe quality of education is more important than anything else. Whether in private or government school the question arises are we getting quality of education ? Well this question is hard to answer because there is no research on it. I also believe that for quality of education three things is a must ---
1) teacher who have the ability to make student understand
2) quality of books
3) changes in curriculum as required

It is also true that besides few government institution, the status of other government institution is very low. Likewise, in private institution we can find differences according to the fees we pay. But, in comparision we find private institution to have more facilities and quality education.

Whether we nationalize all the instuition or not, I believe if we could get quality of books in standard price then it may have a great effect on education system. I studied in private school and now in private college. But I am realizing that I did not studied quality of books that I should have. It was not because I was not good in studies. I am definately not satisfied with the standard of education that I got till now. I am quiet sure that many of the students have realized the same thing. When we make comparision of the education system even with our neighbouring country, then we find ourself at the bottom of the line. One reason for sure is the differences in quality of books.

In our country, I see the motive of many parents for educating their children is for getting them higher marks, and of teacher and instuition by giving notes and passing their students to maximum for reputation. For eg, why is it so that the students who get's around 80 to 85 percent in SLC cannot complete their ISC or even engineering and doctorate ? Why is it so that students going into science and commerce faculty skip to humanities?. I believe, it is because the students were unable to realize what their potential is and by comparing their marksheet they think that they are eligible for the particular streams. Well, we can definately find these problem in both government and private instuition.

In Nepal we are getting education but in respect to the limits seperated by our education system. How can we judge our teacher whether he is qualified or not to educate us. I believe there should be a law to check teachers for their qualification and license to be provided by the ministry of education or other departments after they pass their qualification test. Like doctors need to get license, the teacher should also do. Because they cannot play with somebody life like that. I believe, this crime is equal to murder.

Hence, who can assure that by nationalizing school and colleges, we can have quality of education. Till now we are not having that in private and government instuition.

Definately, I am not pointing fingers on the ability of the teachers and students. I know that we are better than any teachers and students in this world. But we are indeed deprived of the rules and regulations, the methods and guidence that can keep us high in the field of education.

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6 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:32 pm

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Unfathom wrote:I believe quality of education is more important than anything else. Whether in private or government school the question arises are we getting quality of education ? Well this question is hard to answer because there is no research on it. I also believe that for quality of education three things is a must ---
1) teacher who have the ability to make student understand
2) quality of books
3) changes in curriculum as required

It is also true that besides few government institution, the status of other government institution is very low. Likewise, in private institution we can find differences according to the fees we pay. But, in comparision we find private institution to have more facilities and quality education.


Whether we nationalize all the instuition or not, I believe if we could get quality of books in standard price then it may have a

great effect on education system. I studied in private school and now in private college. But I am realizing that I did not studied quality of books that I should have. It was not because I was not good in studies. I am definately not satisfied with the standard of education that I got till now. I am quiet sure that many of the students have realized the same thing. When we make comparision of the education system even with our neighbouring country, then we find ourself at the bottom of the line. One reason for sure is the differences in quality of books.

In our country, I see the motive of many parents for educating their children is for getting them higher marks, and of teacher and instuition by giving notes and passing their students to maximum for reputation. For eg, why is it so that the students who get's around 80 to 85 percent in SLC cannot complete their ISC or even engineering and doctorate ? Why is it so that students going into science and commerce faculty skip to humanities?. I believe, it is because the students were unable to realize what their potential is and by comparing their marksheet they think that they are eligible for the particular streams. Well, we can definately find these problem in both government and private instuition.

In Nepal we are getting education but in respect to the limits seperated by our education system. How can we judge our teacher whether he is qualified or not to educate us. I believe there should be a law to check teachers for their qualification and license to be provided by the ministry of education or other departments after they pass their qualification test. Like doctors need to get license, the teacher should also do. Because they cannot play with somebody life like that. I believe, this crime is equal to murder.

Hence, who can assure that by nationalizing school and colleges, we can have quality of education. Till now we are not having that in private and government instuition.

Definately, I am not pointing fingers on the ability of the teachers and students. I know that we are better than any teachers and students in this world. But we are indeed deprived of the rules and regulations, the methods and guidence that can keep us high in the field of education.


Yeh, updates and books are very important.But Compare the public Universities, TU,PU and private KU. Ok, you are not satisfied with your college then compere your college with Ratnna rajya and Shanker Dev. Now what is your choice? I am also not satisfied with my college but I can say my college is better than any other public college. And imagine we, who are not satisfied with our college studying in public college.
Even though my college has so many problem, college trys to make it better,because of the business and money, but no body cares about upgrading Ratnna rajya and Shanker Dev.

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7 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:30 am

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blazeofglory wrote:This should not be happening actually. The only thing that should happen is.... creation of slabs of Tuition fees based on the type of school. That means, Free of cost of state-owned schools. a small fee for small schools, higher for schools with bigger investments.... but all the same cheaper than the present tuition rate.

Nationalizing of schools is just not practical.

i disagree on your point that there should be regulations on tuition fees ...i beleive it distorts the incentives of the edupreneurs...and though state-based schools are purpoted to be free ...what about the hidden costs involved...state provides the education doiesn;t mean that infrastructures will come for free or the teachers will work for free...the costs will be covered by tax money and tax is paid by us...so its back to square one...and i personally don;t mind if someone does business through schools ...why shouldn;t one??


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8 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:32 am

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[b]My article on Nepalese Education System and the ways of improving it..please comment:[/b]

http://surathgiri.blogspot.com/2009/05/improving-nepalese-education-through.html


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9 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:27 pm

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I know what you would say if I say this but I have no other choice.
When you say you would go for the free education you would pause to see no private school at all in rural areas. Because in the name of education it's all about business and you would always acknowledge that thought. I challenge that if there were only private schools all over Nepal then the education rate would be slammed to nothing. You might even add the point that but the government would pour our money for the sake of their welfare and we hardly even know them. It is called a social responsibility. I know that it's hard for the government to implement quality education over there but at least it is teaching them. I know the system is more pathetic than we believe it is. The government pours the money for the education because it has to but the private why would it give a damn. Even in various capitalistic country government has to provide enormous amount of grant. Looking at that figure our investment is nothing in ratio. Could you count how many cities are there in our country and VDCs in our country? Then what sort of infrastructures there is needed and the investments to be done then comes the price and would it be cheap enough for the villagers? I know what others would say the tax would be mobilized to the private enterprises who would dare to go over there start a school. Even then it would not be enough. Once I heard from a Belgium woman who said if I were here then I could easily changed this and that. For the god sake it's not a piece of cake for the capitalistic mindsets but at least can be bitten rice which can at least be consumed with a glass of water. So it's all about the system.
I know that my logic is still not strong. So come on guys.

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10 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:45 pm

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I believe the idea which is mentioned is Surath's article is the solution to the problem that razor Blade has mentioned i.e. "the private- why would it give a damn". So if there is market private companies will rush there and if there are more private companies, more competition and more quality respectively. So, if there is no student, i.e. market, so I think its useless for government to open a school.

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11 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:04 pm

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coming back to the topic...
Look at all the harm nationalizing caused in India .. during the Indira Gandhi time..and before 1991. And look post 1991... India's got a huge economy to boast and a great growth rate. Nothing should be nationlized. Yes, talking about schools...the socialistic concept is favorable because every child must have a right to education. Whats satisfactory for all differently inclined people is...no nationalization but a certain roof to the fees or maybe some strict guidelines for the schools to give scholarships to needy students... public schools are so mis-managed and I wouldn't expect them to yield many good products.

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12 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:45 pm

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blazeofglory wrote:coming back to the topic...
Look at all the harm nationalizing caused in India .. during the Indira Gandhi time..and before 1991. And look post 1991... India's got a huge economy to boast and a great growth rate. Nothing should be nationlized. Yes, talking about schools...the socialistic concept is favorable because every child must have a right to education. Whats satisfactory for all differently inclined people is...no nationalization but a certain roof to the fees or maybe some strict guidelines for the schools to give scholarships to needy students... public schools are so mis-managed and I wouldn't expect them to yield many good products.

I think the idea behind roof to fee is not a good one. If the incentive i.e. profit, of any school is roofed then the owner of private school will surely compromise with the quality. And I don't understand, if the parents are ready to pay the price for the quality, who are others to decide the price.. and for the people who cannot offered expensive school there is always a cheaper school to admit there children. Anyway, I also think need base scholarship is better. . ..

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13 Re: Nationalization of schools and colleges! on Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:25 pm

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blazeofglory wrote:coming back to the topic...
Look at all the harm nationalizing caused in India .. during the Indira Gandhi time..and before 1991. And look post 1991... India's got a huge economy to boast and a great growth rate. Nothing should be nationlized. Yes, talking about schools...the socialistic concept is favorable because every child must have a right to education. Whats satisfactory for all differently inclined people is...no nationalization but a certain roof to the fees or maybe some strict guidelines for the schools to give scholarships to needy students... public schools are so mis-managed and I wouldn't expect them to yield many good products.

well, i believe quality education is a very expensive thing! The basic things we need to learn in life like literacy, life skills, decision making we can acquire or say all of us can acquire without any support from the government..besides these i think the education is a costly thing and it is a commodity through which one should be allowed to make profit....as u can see in our country the prime example of this fact: the government provides cheap subsidised education like BA BBS through public colleges but getting a BBS degree or not getting it makes hardly any difference in how productive a person is...if we want education for the sake of degree then it's a fine thing to do...but if we really want productivity we need to have a quality education which is a costly thing...MBA or BBA from Kathmandu univeristy is very costly but that's worth it as graduates from these institutions are very productive for the society...


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